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The question rate needs improving on this site.

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thoughts, suggestions?


Moving in the right direction

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Were up to 2.7 now. Highest I've seen it in about 12 months, good work people!

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  • I forgot where I can find those stats like questions per day. Please help me out here :)
    – Wills
    Commented Jul 16, 2014 at 21:29
  • area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/3659/the-great-outdoors (just a note 2.7 now!)
    – Aravona
    Commented Jul 17, 2014 at 7:13
  • It's on Area51 @EverythingRightPlace
    – user2766
    Commented Jul 17, 2014 at 8:04
  • If we'd hit 15 Q/day, would this end the beta phase?
    – Wills
    Commented Jul 17, 2014 at 15:31
  • the definition in the faq just says critical mass @EverythingRightPlace, I'm not sure TBH
    – user2766
    Commented Jul 17, 2014 at 15:36
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    we're at 3.3 now :)
    – Aravona
    Commented Jul 18, 2014 at 14:41
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    Back down to 1.5, folks. :/
    – J. Musser
    Commented Oct 21, 2014 at 15:31

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I would suggest that we are more open and less stringent on questions being asked. At least until we reach a good volume of daily questions (~10 a day).

Instead of having an army of people ready to close questions for the smallest of reasons, we should aim to have an army of people ready to edit and improve questions being asked.

We should revisit our rules and add more lee way to encourage traditional forum users to join the discussion on TGO. Once we have a good expert base, we can work toward improving those base rules to help shape higher quality content.

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    According to this search outdoors.stackexchange.com/search?tab=newest&q=closed%3ayes only ten questions asked this year are closed. (I believe my rep would allow me to see any deleted closed questions, but I didn't see any on the list.) I don't see an army of people ready to close questions for the smallest of reasons, not by a long shot. Further, it is insanely difficult to get stricter later - people keep linking to old questions demanding to know why they are ok when the new question is not. Many a site has learned this lesson already. We might as well take advantage of that wisdom. Commented Jul 9, 2014 at 16:34
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    I agree with Kate - there are a number of closed/deleted spam questions as well, but they would also be quickly dealt with no matter what. The key here is more questions.
    – Rory Alsop Mod
    Commented Jul 9, 2014 at 17:43
  • Can't argue with the numbers. :) This is an overstatement based on my impression of how many time I have to choose "leave open". It is interesting to note that the statistics do not include previously closed questions that were subsequently reopen. @RoryAlsop More questions; sure. My point is more users, more questions. I believe being overly strict will make some users walk away to TGO own disadvantage.
    – ppl
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 1:01
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    Maybe there aren't so many closed topics here but still I second the opinion of @ppl. I myself are sometimes in temptation to be as strict as I am used to from SO. But still I believe we should use other standards here. Btw I think we have lots of new users the last couple of weeks.
    – Wills
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 12:06
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    There haven't been a lot of questions actually closed, but in many cases people have made negative comments on questions that might have had the effect of making the person feel unwelcome.
    – user2169
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 17:59
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    I don't see a lot of closed questions, so not closing any questions wouldn't add much traffic, and possibly hurt due to the higher noise level. Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 21:43
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    @OlinLathrop In the past year or so I had to cast a close vote initiated by a different user about 55 times. Many of which were first time users. As an outsider, I would probably consider it rude and may choose not to involve myself in such a site.
    – ppl
    Commented Jul 15, 2014 at 3:33
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    Just to follow up on this, I think quite a few of us took this on board and leeway was incorporated into the site. I'm probably just as guilty of coming to this site with a Stack Overflow mentality it appeared the consensus was that this doesn't work here. So I'd suggest that this answer was listened to and acted upon.
    – user2766
    Commented Aug 6, 2014 at 12:11
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I feel some question seeding

Or

some self answered questions

Would help to generate interest and get things moving a little.

Bear in mind all questions still need to be of a good quality and abide by the rules! Who knows you may learn something new too!

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    I went through a phase of doing this a while back (self-answered questions) - but feel we need something more. Over on music.se they ran a competition for the best question on a set topic every couple of weeks that won a prize of £20 ish value - perhaps that would be worth investigating here?
    – berry120
    Commented Jul 9, 2014 at 18:02
  • not sure anyone would be willing to stump up the cash @berry120. Unless you volunteering? :)
    – user2766
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 9:20
  • Stack exchange did for the music one. Perhaps they won't, but it's worth asking!
    – berry120
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 14:18
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    If a self-answered question is valuable, it's worth doing for its own sake. But it's not going to contribute significantly to solving the problem. We're an order of magnitude below where we need to be.
    – user2169
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 18:04
  • I really like the event idea. One could also try to provide reputation as a price - maybe more easily to get a sponsor for this? Commented Jul 15, 2014 at 16:03
  • Anybody got any idea how to go about doing this?
    – user2766
    Commented Jul 15, 2014 at 16:24
  • @Liam we'd need to get in contact with a Stack Exchange Community Manager. Sam Brand has helped us run promotions on Bicycles.SE and Super User before. If you want to put together a promotion proposal, let's talk in chat sometime - I have a bit of experience with it from other SE sites.
    – nhinkle
    Commented Jul 21, 2014 at 22:41
  • Hi @nhinkle. Something has been started on this. RoryAlsop has raised it with the relevant people. Feel free to pop into chat and discuss.
    – user2766
    Commented Jul 22, 2014 at 13:47
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From my experience on TGO today - I talked through some questions in the chat, and those that we decided were on topic I still posted up. But it also let me get some answers to a more off topic question (was on topic for me but not really everyone else!). One thing I would do again is post a question that I have brought up in the chatroom, this would then still allow others to see it despite the fact I may already have an answer (and would allow others to post their answers up as well).

I think it also helped me word the question better having actually already talked it through, ignoring questions just because they are in the chatroom and not migrating them onto the site seems a little redundant as it prevents other people easily seeing them, but the chat is a great way to talk things through first.

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  • Yes, good point. I don't think we use chat enough.
    – user2766
    Commented Jul 14, 2014 at 15:22
  • I also prefer to check a question is on topic first, and if not scrap / reword it to be on topic.
    – Aravona
    Commented Jul 14, 2014 at 15:23
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I think that question seeding and trying to get more publicity are the best answers for this. If there are not enough questions per day, it is either a result of people not thinking they will find an answer here or of not enough people knowing about this site.

Seed questions, ask good questions that will cause people to stumble across this site as they do their own searches. Also, building up a better bank of answered questions will simply be useful for users and visitors.

On the publicity side, sharing links to TGO on personal websites, blogs, and social media might be a great way to garner more attention.

If we want TGO to survive, we need to make it a fantastic resource, then convince everyone else that it is a fantastic resource.

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    TGO is on my personal outdoors blog - whatever little traffic we can send over we will, I should definitely tweet it a bit though! :) good answer
    – Aravona
    Commented Aug 21, 2014 at 12:29
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I don't see any realistic chance of raising the number of questions by an order of magnitude. The only realistic chance I see is to combine with fitness.SE. The topics may not be that closely related, but they do overlap, and fitness has a question rate several times greater than ours.

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    I think this is a good suggestion but I feel that TGO is already too broad; backpacking, climbing, fishing/hunting, survival etc.
    – ppl
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 18:34
  • @ppl: I agree, but I think the alternative is for TGO to die.
    – user2169
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 19:20
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    I don't like the idea of combining with fitness.SE. This might get really broad. Why do you think, TGO will die and we can't be able to push the traffic here? Are there really that few people out there who are interested in this kind of topics? If we look e.g. in the climbing gyms, this can't be true.
    – Wills
    Commented Jul 10, 2014 at 21:49
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    I think very little of our content is fitness related. Some of it is and your always going to get some cross over (same with Travel), but, for example no way are fitness going to accept questions such as How to fix a leak in a fibreglass kayak? or How can you navigate without a compass or GPS.
    – user2766
    Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 9:26
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    I downvoted this answer as I don't think that fitness and outdoor should be merged. Commented Jul 11, 2014 at 13:48
  • @EverythingRightPlace: Why do you think, TGO will die and we can't be able to push the traffic here? I don't think TGO will die. I think it's already dead. Are there really that few people out there who are interested in this kind of topics? There are plenty of such people. The problem is that they've never heard of outdoors.SE.
    – user2169
    Commented Jul 12, 2014 at 17:06
  • Now TGO has gone up further to 2 questions a day - my problem is mainly a lot of the questions I have in my head I think might come under off topic.
    – Aravona
    Commented Jul 14, 2014 at 7:30
  • I've thought along similar lines in the past @BenCrowell. When it comes down to it though, I'm on SO everyday (work) and my real passion is "the outdoors" so I don't mind contributing. I'd love this site to work, I think it would be a great benefit, if it does it does, if it doesn't it doesn't.
    – user2766
    Commented Jul 14, 2014 at 8:04
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    If TGO is about to merge, I don´t see any reason why it should be fitness. Many of the equipment related things are fit for DIY, and I see more overlap with Sustainable Living than with fitness. Commented Jul 15, 2014 at 16:08

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